A Dialogue With A Jehovah’s Witness

Grace and peace, Saints.

Last Saturday, two Jehovah’s Witnesses came to my door.  This is nothing new, as I get Jehovah’s Witnesses coming to my door all the time.  In fact, back home in St. Louis, there is one Jehovah’s Witness, we’ll call him Dave, who comes to see me about every six months or so, to drop off a Watchtower magazine.  Of course, I give him and all Witnesses with whom I come into contact the true Gospel of Jesus Christ, letting them know that, as a Jehovah’s Witness, they are on a collision course with the Lake of Fire. 

Dave has tried on several occasions to defend Watchtower doctrine as sound and biblical.  And each time he has failed.  The last time he left my house, his faith in the Watchtower was seriously faltering.  I pray that God will eventually open his eyes and he will abandon that false prophet like a sinking ship.

The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, as Jehovah’s Witnesses are formerly called, does not have the truth.  Believe that.  There will be no Jehovah’s Witnesses in Heaven.  To their credit, they do outstanding research, especially on societal ills, and their articles are always well sourced.  Unfortunately, that will not be enough to get them into heaven.

Well, when these two Witnesses showed up at my door, I instantly knew something was afoot.  They were both female, ranging in apparent age from mid twenties to early thirties.  One of them was obviously of Arab parentage, and said that she was from Sudan, while the other was of apparently mixed parentage, and said that she was from Ghana.  My attention instantly went to the Sudanese woman, because my spirit told me that this woman was actually a Muslim.  And, she did much to confirm my suspicions. 

In case you are wondering why this would be worthy of pen and ink, it is because lately I seem to be getting a lot of attention from Muslims.  As I wrote in A Gorilla In A Suit, A Muslim gentleman greeted me on the subway in a manner usually reserved for Muslims or Muslims and close non-Muslim acquaintances.  And as I related in Blessed are Ye, my children, especially my son, are persecuted by Muslim as well as Roman Catholic children in the school they attend.  So, I seem to have popped up on the radar screen.

I was surprised when this young lady and her friend showed up at my door, however, because I instantly knew in my spirit that she was a Muslim with some knowledge of Christianity and of the Bible.  Let me set this up for you.

When they first came to the door, they asked me if I spoke English, which was a foolish question.  Now I’m no celebrity, neither am I anyone of any notoriety.  But I am a true Bible-believing Christian, who preaches the truth: and one of those truths is that God hates the worship of idols.  When you consider the fact that I live in Munich, Germany, a city that practices idol worship, in a country that practices idol worship, and that gave us Hitler, Nazism, and the current Roman Catholic pope, Benedict XVI (who also happens to be the Antichrist), then you can see why this lady’s question was obviously ridiculous.  Most everyone here knows who I am, especially Roman Catholics, Muslims, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Charismatics.

So, when the two ladies pretended not to know me, I instantly knew they were up to no good.  Then the Ghanaian woman pulls out a Watchtower magazine and tells me that this particular issue dealt with the reality of Satan.  I asked her if she believed in Satan, and she answered that she did.   I then asked her if she believed in Hell, and she answered that she didn’t.  I then asked her how she could believe in Satan and not in Hell, when the Bible teaches that Hell was created for the devil and his angels.  She instantly asked me if I could show her in the Bible where anything is written about Hell. 

This lady was very eager to go to the Bible; so eager, in fact, that I perceived that this meeting had been orchestrated and that it was hoped that I would engage the Witnesses in a biblical discussion about Hell.  I was not concerned about my ability to defend the biblical teaching on Hell, but I was concerned about wasting my time arguing with two women who did not really want to come to a knowledge of the truth, but only wanted to prove their superior knowledge of the Christian Bible over someone who claims to be a Christian.  They wanted to prove that they knew more about what I believe than I do. 

To engage in such a discourse, even if I were to win it hands down, is to succumb to pride.  This is one of Satan’s oldest tricks.  So when I went inside to get my Bible, I prayed and asked God if this is something He wanted me to do.  He said no.  I therefore went back outside and told the ladies that this was not something that God wanted me to do today.  They expressed profound disappointment and said that they had really hoped to discuss the Bible with me.  After witnessing to the Witnesses (pun definitely intended) for years, I know that this is normally not a tactic they use.  The Witnesses, when confronted with a Christian who reads and knows the Bible, prefer to avoid a “confrontation,” opting to just leave a Watchtower magazine with the Christian and return another day.  So when they expressed disappointment that we would not be having a discussion that day, I definitely knew something was up, especially since they feigned ignorance of who I am.

Now my curious nature kicks in, and I want to know not only what they wanted from me, but also who they really were.  But God had already told me not to engage in that particular discussion with them.  So I went another route.  I cannot give you the entire discourse, because, even though I had determined not to get into a discussion with them, we ended up talking for about two hours, during which their confidence was completely dismantled.  I also satisfied my suspicion that at least the Sudanese lady was actually a Muslim.

Without getting too deep into the details, I noticed that the Ghanaian woman had a copy of Studies in the Scriptures, a book written by Watchtower Bible and Tract Society founder, Charles Taze Russell.  This book is required reading for all Jehovah’s Witnesses, and they will often refer to it, while defending their doctrines. 

I asked the young lady if she were obliged to carry that with her, and she told me that she wasn’t.  So, I asked her why she carried it, to which she responded that it was like an encyclopedia and was a great resource.  I told her that, being written by men, it was subject to error, and should not be used as a source of doctrine.  She responded that she was not using it as a source of doctrine.  I then asked her why, if it were not a source of doctrine, she relied on it to help her explain biblical doctrine, rather than rely solely on the Word of God.

She faltered at this point, so the Sudanese lady, who had been silent up until now, chimed in, and asked me if I believed that the “Protestant Bible,” as she called the King James, was the Word of God.  I told her that I did.  She then asked me why I believed that, and I told her that I had long decided that I would stick to the King James as the inerrant Word of the Living God until something else proved it was not. 

I then asked her if she thought that the New World Translation (NWT), the exclusive Bible of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, was the Word of God.  When she said that she did, I asked her why.  She told me that the New World Translation has been proven to be the closest to the “original manuscripts” referring to the original Scriptures on which the Bible is based.  I asked her who was her authority for that claim, and she told me that “many authorities” have said so.  I asked her to name one authority outside of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, and she could not.  I told her that the reason she could not was because the Jehovah’s Witnesses are the only ones who make that claim.  In fact, every bible version proponent claims their version is the closest to the original languages–including those who support the King James.

I asked her if she ever contacted any of the translators and asked them for evidence that the New World Translation was the closest to the original manuscripts.  She responded that she hadn’t, because the identity of the translators has been kept secret “to preserve their humility.”  I told her that for all she knew, the translators could have been some kids fresh out of Greek school.  I told her that to claim that the NWT is the truest to the original languages is a pretty hefty claim to make, especially when you cannot substantiate such a claim.

I went on to tell her that Watchtower founder Charles Taze Russell, under oath, admitted that he could not speak Greek, even though he had claimed he spoke Greek, and was the one who supposedly commissioned the translators of the NWT.  If he could not speak Greek, I said, at best he trusted others with coming up with his bible, and he could not even verify if what they had written was in any way true to the original manuscripts.  I asked her why she would trust a Bible written under those circumstances.  She responded that, like me, she had decided to trust it until something came along that proved the NWT was not the Word of God.

I told her that, unlike me, she was trusting in an organization that was in fact a false prophet.  For the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society has on several occasions predicted Jesus’ Second Coming and each time has been dead wrong.  I told her that the Bible says that if a prophet makes even one prediction that doesn’t come true he should be rejected as a prophet of God:

“When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:22).”

She tried to defend that fact by saying that there were some predictions that did come true, to which I responded that even if one prediction does not come true, the Bible says we should reject that prophet.  I added that the Jehovah’s Witnesses were wrong not once, not twice, but several times.  She argued that even the Apostles were sometimes wrong; to which I responded the Apostles were not prophets.  She argued that it is not fair to criticize a mere human for being wrong, as even Jesus did not know the time of the end.  I retorted that according to the Bible, Jesus was made “a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death” (Hebrews 2:9).  After His resurrection, I told her, Jesus said, “All power has been given to me in heaven and earth”  (Matthew 28:18).  This included, I told her, the power to know. 

Besides, whatever Jesus didn’t know, he never made a prediction that did not come true. 

And his predictions keep coming true.  Jesus predicted the unprecedented wars and conflicts going on in Africa and the world, and the hatred and violence in the world today.  Jesus even predicted tsunamis: that’s right: tsunamis:

“And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring” (Luke 21:25).

Jesus is never wrong.  The same cannot be said, however, of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

I asked this lady how she could trust a bible from an organization that has the audacity to speak for God, yet is always wrong.  She said that she was not trusting in the organization, but trusting in God.  I asked her why, then, was she going around passing out Watchtower literature and carrying a Jehovah’s Witness bible.  She said that she could just as well discuss the bible using my “Protestant” Bible or any other bible, for that matter, as well as she could using her own.  She said that the truth is the truth and that she could just as well defend the truth using my Bible as her own. 

In fact, this lady said that when explaining the “truth” of the bible to those to whom she witnessed she often would use whatever bible the person used, including the King James Bible.  It was then that I truly began to suspect that this woman was a deceitful worker: for you see, in order to defend Jehovah’s Witness doctrines using any non-Jehovah’s Witness bible, the lady would have to know what other bibles teach and which bibles she could use to defend her doctrine.  She would also have to know what other faiths and denominations believe and teach and how they relate to what Jehovah’s Witnesses teach.  This would require special training and a great deal of time—time most of us don’t have: those of us, that is, who aren’t involved in a full-time apologetics ministry. 

So this lady was implying that she is involved in the work of apologetics, the effective application of which would involve comparative theology: knowing what other faiths believe and teach and comparing or contrasting those beliefs to one’s own beliefs either to find common ground between the faiths or to defend one’s own beliefs by finding the error in others. 

Further proof of this was the fact that this lady made repeated references to Islam.  If this woman were really a Jehovah’s Witness, then this was proof that Jehovah’s Witnesses are not Christian.  Because the last thing a true Christian would ever do is refer to Muslim doctrine or beliefs, as Islam is a religion that has historically persecuted Christians and blasphemes the name of Jesus by teaching that He was a prophet—a mere man.  They also speak of Him as though He were dead, by using the term, “Peace Be Upon Him (PBUH)” after saying or writing His name—the same as they do when referring to the Prophet Mohammed, who is dead.  Referring to Islam is something that Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t ordinarily do.  I’ve had discussions with many Jehovah’s Witnesses and none of them ever talked about Islam.

Furthermore, if she was a Jehovah’s Witness, then it is yet proof of my claim that Jehovah’s Witnesses are not true Christians.  For if Jehovah’s Witnesses were Christians, then this lady’s Muslim family, friends, and neighbors would have persecuted her beyond measure for converting.  But in that the Jehovah’s Witnesses deny Jesus as God Almighty and, in fact, both add to and take away from the Scriptures, effectively denying His word, then it is clear why they get along so well with Muslims, who also deny Jesus Christ is God Almighty.

So, everything combined, I felt in my spirit that this woman was not a true Jehovah’s Witness, but an Islamic apologist with a background in comparative theology.  This would enable her to have knowledge of most any given religion and to be able to defend Watchtower doctrine using any bible version.  Then again, maybe she was not a Muslim.  Maybe she was a Roman Catholic. 

Whatever she was, she was not the garden variety Jehovah’s Witness, I assure you.  And the fact that she ended up at my door told me that my enemies are upping the ante.

To prove how lost Jehovah’s Witnesses are, I told her that as a Jehovah’s Witness she could not make the claim that she is going to Heaven, and her silence at this proved I was right.  You see, the Bible tells us in the Book of the Revelation that the redeemed of the earth will be 144,000 select individuals:

“And I heard the number of them which were sealed, and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand…” (Revelation 7:4a). 

The Jehovah’s Witnesses claim these individuals will be the only ones allowed to go to Heaven.  Not surprisingly, they are all from the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.  But there are two select criteria that the 144,000 meet that few, if any, of the elders of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society can.  The second half of the above verse gives us one of those criteria:

“And I heard the number of them which were sealed, and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel” (Revelation 7:4b).

The 144,000 are Jews. 

This makes the claim that the 144,000 are from the Jehovah’s Witnesses very dubious.  For many of the elders of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society have passed away, and few, if any, were Jewish.

Additionally, Revelation 14:1 gives us another criteria which effectively eliminates all of the elders of the Jehovah’s Witnesses:

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred and forty and four thousand…these are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins” (Revelation 14:1,4). 

The 144,000 are Jewish virgins.  

Now this lady claimed that the Bible means “spiritual Jews and spiritual virgins” (this was the second time I had heard this), but the fact that the Bible says that these people were “they which were not defiled with women” makes it clear that these are literal virgins.  That every one of the elders of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society was married would completely disqualify them from membership in the 144,000.

I told the Sudanese lady that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is deceiving them by making them believe that only select individuals from their organization are going to Heaven, while the rest have to work for their salvation.  How do they work?  By going door to door sharing “another Jesus, another gospel, and another spirit” (2 Corinthians 11:4).  The lady denied that she is obliged to go door to door sharing their gospel and distributing Watchtower literature.  But every other Jehovah’s Witness that I have asked has confirmed that it is Watchtower policy that they must go door to door to obtain salvation.

All I ever do is ask a Jehovah’s Witness if he is going to heaven.  If he is honest, he will say that he doesn’t know and that it depends on how good he has been.  Though she denied that Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that they must work for their salvation, the lady nevertheless tried to defend the doctrine of works salvation by quoting James 2:20, which says, “faith without works is dead.”  But I told her that Christians work because we are saved.  We don’t work to get saved.  Consider the following passages:

“For by grace ye are saved, through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: “Not of works, lest any man should boast” (Ephesians 2:8-9).

Salvation is a gift; you can’t work for it.  About salvation by works, the Bible says:

“This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men” (Titus 3:8). 

This passage makes it clear that good works come after salvation, not before.  We don’t do good works to get saved: we do good works because we are saved.  Notice that the passage says that good works are “good and profitable unto men.”  God wants us to do good works in order to help people, not to get saved. 

The doctrine of works salvation is certain death, as Hebrews 6:1 says that the believer has repented from “dead works” unto faith in Christ Jesus.  In other words, he is no longer under the law of works, but under the law of faith.  Consider these words of the Apostle Paul:

“Knowing that a man is not justified (made righteous) by the works of the law (good works), but by faith of Jesus Christ…for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified” (Galations 2:16). 

By thinking that they must work for their salvation, Jehovah’s Witnesses are putting themselves under the law, and Scripture says that the law is death (Romans 6:2).

By this time, the two witnesses (pun not intended) had exhausted every argument, but the Sudanese lady continued to make a feeble effort to defend the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society as a godly organization.  So I asked her how she could trust an organization the founder of which was a thirty-third degree Freemason: and Charles Taze Russell was just that, as his grave makes startlingly clear.

See that cross within the crown?  That is an emblem of the Knights Templar.  Consider this cover of an early edition of the Watchtower magazine.

Notice the knight in the upper right hand corner?  That’s a Knight Templar.  How do I know?  Because the Templars were also known as “shepherd kings.”  And, if you will notice, there is a shepherd’s crook next to the knight.  

By the way, what’s the significance of the flash of lightning, next to the watchtower?  It doesn’t seem congruent with the rest of the imagery does it?  Well consider that Jesus said, “I saw Satan as lightning fall from Heaven.”

The Knights Templar were the precursor to the Freemasons, as the cross and crown on the wall of this Freemason lodge below proves.  

The Knights Templar were a Satanic organization that practiced all sorts of pagan rituals including blood sacrifice. Hollywood and the media tout them as a Christian organization, but it is a known fact that the Knights Templar worshipped an idol named Baphomet, a demon, and required their initiates to spit upon a Christian cross as part of one of their rituals.

If Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd degree Freemason, and he founded the Jehovah’s Witnesses, then the spirit of Freemasonry, the demon Baphomet, is also in the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.  And their doctrines prove it.

Besides that, Freemasonry is witchcraft, as the God of Freemasonry is Satan.  In The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, Masonic author Manly P. Hall, himself a 33rd degree Freemason, says this:

“When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands, and before he may step onward and upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy” (p. 48).

Former Illuminati witch turned Christian evangelist, John Todd, said that the “warrior on the block” ritual is human sacrifice.  According to Todd, this ritual is a part of the ritual of the 33rd degree.  And Watchtower Bible and Tract Society founder, Charles Taze Russell, was a 33rd degree Freemason.

Human sacrifice is witchcraft, which God expressly forbids in Deuteronomy Chapter 18.

I asked this lady how she could trust in an organization the founder of which was a high ranking witch.  Jesus said that we are not to be “unequally yoked with unbelievers” (2 Corinthians 6:14).  To be a Jehovah’s Witness is to be unequally yoked.  

By now, both women were completely silent, so I sensed that this was a good time to close our discussion, which I did by laying it all on the line.  I told these women that if they did not leave the Jehovah’s Witnesses, they were going to Hell.  And it didn’t make any difference whether they believed in Hell or not.  I told them that there won’t be any Jehovah’s Witnesses in Heaven.  The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society are deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.  They are a part of the “strong delusion” sent to deceive those who “believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”  I told them to think about everything we discussed very carefully, as time is running out.

At that, I asked the ladies if I could pray for them and they consented, saying they would also pray for me.  They thanked me for the lively discussion and I returned the complement.  They then departed.

I walked into the house realizing once again that a great portion of society is tragically deceived having believed a lie.  The Jehovah’s Witnesses, like the Roman Catholics, the Mormons, and many other religions, have a form of righteousness, but they deny the Power thereof.  That Power is Jesus Christ.  Every religion except true Bible-based Christianity in some way calls Jesus Christ a liar.  They all teach in some way that you have to work to get saved.  This is a lie from the pit of Hell.  Jesus has already done all of the work.  All you have to do is accept what He has done for you.

If you know a Jehovah’s Witness, perhaps, after reading this, you will feel a burden to give him the true Gospel.  If you are a Jehovah’s Witness, then you now know the truth. You now have a decision to make.  Choose life.

“But I fear, as the serpent beguiled Eve though his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ” (2 Corinthians 11:3).

Be encouraged and look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.

The Still Man